He has FUNNY FEELINGS about the pact! And about Ratatosk in general. It really is a HUGE relief to learn that Ratatosk is alive! Like yes there is ALL THE REGRET that he betrayed Ratatosk once and then blocked it out until amnesialand got to him, and ALL THE APPREHENSION because he does plan to make a journey when he goes home to see the Summon Spirits again and apologize, if they'll let him – but it is overshadowed pretty extensively by OH THANK GOD RATATOSK DID NOT DIE LIKE I THOUGHT HE DID.
He'd be able to articulate how he felt about it a little better if he'd seen one of Lloyd's or Zelos's memories about fighting Summon Spirits, I think; it has to do with the nature of Summon Spirits and how they live! Because their material in the game tends to imply that they don't necessarily need to be pacted? Otherwise Mithos wouldn't have been the first summoner to do it for them. But it's generally a good thing for them to be actively pacted (Shadow being the most extreme example, possibly falling apart from the 8(? feelings of not being called on anymore) and when we see personal rejection of a pact (Ratatosk, Origin,) it's because the Summon Spirit feels too betrayed to place that much faith in another again. SO. What I am getting at here is that he also thinks Emil is legit pacted with Ratatosk (if in a weird way) and that is a good thing because it APPEARS to mean that Ratatosk didn't let his betrayed feelings shut him off from others.
Emil's new personality worries him somewhat, but not as much as it could -- it's notable that even without Knife there to verify he would still think of Ratatosk as a part of Emil, not as a second person living in Emil's, just because of...knowing firsthand that this is not a normal thing Summon Spirits do to their summoners. Not that he isn't cautious of it/won't sit on Ratatosk as needed, but he has a lot of faith in Emil to handle himself/learn to do so if he doesn't yet know how. He is a bit secondhand ':X' that Ratatosk-mode Emil has moved right on to trying to revengekill Lloyd without warning, not because OH GOD THAT IS SO WRONG but because with the whole Van situation and surrounding events, he and Lloyd have gotten pretty conscious that 'impulsively revengekill people for stuff they did in the past' is something that can snowball really fast and really badly, especially in a close environment like Aather.
On a personal level he doesn't know what to do with Emiltatosk either except...keep being there for him when he needs somebody, because there was nothing fake about him adoring Emil right back and wanting to help him out, and hoping that they could still be...friends, or...or salvage something positive out of the relationship. Because as much as Mithos expects anyone he tells about his past misdeeds to hate his guts, Aather's also given him a healthy dose of optimism that it doesn't always have to be like that. And in their first talk Ratatosk-mode Emil was mad at him, but...didn't tell him to butt out, which is also a huge relief! So I guess they will keep...with this bizarre sort of trucking on...until a memory/event happens to knock them out of it or Emil asks Mithos to clarify a bit more. Yes.
If you HAD apped Emil as a knight which Personae patronage do you think would have appealed to him? Or to Ratatosk-mode Emil?
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He has FUNNY FEELINGS about the pact! And about Ratatosk in general. It really is a HUGE relief to learn that Ratatosk is alive! Like yes there is ALL THE REGRET that he betrayed Ratatosk once and then blocked it out until amnesialand got to him, and ALL THE APPREHENSION because he does plan to make a journey when he goes home to see the Summon Spirits again and apologize, if they'll let him – but it is overshadowed pretty extensively by OH THANK GOD RATATOSK DID NOT DIE LIKE I THOUGHT HE DID.
He'd be able to articulate how he felt about it a little better if he'd seen one of Lloyd's or Zelos's memories about fighting Summon Spirits, I think; it has to do with the nature of Summon Spirits and how they live! Because their material in the game tends to imply that they don't necessarily need to be pacted? Otherwise Mithos wouldn't have been the first summoner to do it for them. But it's generally a good thing for them to be actively pacted (Shadow being the most extreme example, possibly falling apart from the 8(? feelings of not being called on anymore) and when we see personal rejection of a pact (Ratatosk, Origin,) it's because the Summon Spirit feels too betrayed to place that much faith in another again. SO. What I am getting at here is that he also thinks Emil is legit pacted with Ratatosk (if in a weird way) and that is a good thing because it APPEARS to mean that Ratatosk didn't let his betrayed feelings shut him off from others.
Emil's new personality worries him somewhat, but not as much as it could -- it's notable that even without Knife there to verify he would still think of Ratatosk as a part of Emil, not as a second person living in Emil's, just because of...knowing firsthand that this is not a normal thing Summon Spirits do to their summoners. Not that he isn't cautious of it/won't sit on Ratatosk as needed, but he has a lot of faith in Emil to handle himself/learn to do so if he doesn't yet know how. He is a bit secondhand ':X' that Ratatosk-mode Emil has moved right on to trying to revengekill Lloyd without warning, not because OH GOD THAT IS SO WRONG but because with the whole Van situation and surrounding events, he and Lloyd have gotten pretty conscious that 'impulsively revengekill people for stuff they did in the past' is something that can snowball really fast and really badly, especially in a close environment like Aather.
On a personal level he doesn't know what to do with Emiltatosk either except...keep being there for him when he needs somebody, because there was nothing fake about him adoring Emil right back and wanting to help him out, and hoping that they could still be...friends, or...or salvage something positive out of the relationship. Because as much as Mithos expects anyone he tells about his past misdeeds to hate his guts, Aather's also given him a healthy dose of optimism that it doesn't always have to be like that. And in their first talk Ratatosk-mode Emil was mad at him, but...didn't tell him to butt out, which is also a huge relief! So I guess they will keep...with this bizarre sort of trucking on...until a memory/event happens to knock them out of it or Emil asks Mithos to clarify a bit more. Yes.
If you HAD apped Emil as a knight which Personae patronage do you think would have appealed to him? Or to Ratatosk-mode Emil?